1968 Mercury Cyclone GT 500; We have the Proof!

As of 3/2/2015 we have some new additional information on the GT 500 Program that should pretty well fill in most of the blanks. You can visit our two Posts to get this newest information by clicking on the links below.
Follow up on Update
Atlanta 500 Driveaway Program
The following information regarding the 1968 Mercury Cyclone GT 500 is published with the most recent information available on top. As you read down, this information gets older AND LESS ACCURATE. The information at the top of the article is the most accurate we have at the time of the update. Where there are conflicts of information please rely on that closest to the top. Very soon we will be taking this page down and eliminating the oldest information. We will only publish what is yet in question and what we known to be reasonably accurate. We will be eliminating the rumors we have found to most likely be untrue. IF YOU HAVE ANY INFORMATION, PHOTOS OR OTHER RELEVANT DATA ON THESE CARS PLEASE SEND IT TO Richard@LegendaryCollectorCars.com SO WE CAN SHARE IT WITH ALL OF OUR OTHER READERS.
However, the questions continue to come in and add additional questions to what we thought we knew. Click Here to visit our newest unknown, a Green “possible” GT 500. Look it over and tells what you think. Can you help prove this is real or something else?
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Updated: 12-17-2011
Here are some of the best photos we have obtained regarding the GT 500.
We don’t talk much about the 1968 Cyclone GT 500 because we know so little and there just aren’t any around. However, we recently received an email from K. Peppers with some information and photos that we thought deserved a little special attention. If you want to know more about these cars we have listed as much as we know on this site and even register them here.
This car is not for sale so don’t ask.
Tommy Hussey has white GT 500, or does he?
I recently received a phone call from Tommy regarding his white 1968 Cyclone GT that he purchased from the original owner. The owner swears the car had never been modified since she owned it. Tommy has since repainted the car and added some NASCAR decals but states he has not otherwise modified the car AND it has both the Cyclone and GT 500 emblems including the flags. However, when he had a Marti Report completed for the car it came back without listing the GT 500 option. Does he have a GT 500 or not?
We need more evidence to figure this one out. The car was built on March 3, 1968. This is the same month as the Atlanta Race on March 31, 1969 when the first dealer promotion was held. (Read the articles much further down on this page regarding that race and the Ford World report.) Most of those cars were white. Tommy’s car is a 302; rumor has it that the white cars were 302s and the orange cars were the 390 and 428 CJs.
It is also worth a note that the Ford World report refers to the cars as Mercury Montego Cyclone 500s and not as GT 500s as the later option was called. The cars I have found with the GT 500 option were all built in a small cluster of cars in early May of 1968 just prior to their appearance at the Charlotte race in late May.
So the question remains; is this a GT 500? Is it a dealer built car? Does anyone know how the 160 promotional cars for the 1968 Atlanta race were built? Were they something the factory did based on some special order or were these cars simply Cyclones with emblems added by a dealer or the factory? The search for information goes on. If you have any additional insight please send us an email or leave a comment below.
You should also compare the photo here with the ones of the Hans Melin white car below. His also has the emblems but he sold the car many years ago and no longer has the VIN info.
Steve Berg recently provided us with this information:
In the August 1968 Motor Trend you can read the mention of the Cyclones for the Atlanta Race. They even mention Cale as having won. Also note that they wished to duplicate this slick promotion for the Charlotte World 600.
The next image is the bottom piece of Steve’s Cyclone build sheet. Notice it starts off with Charlotte 600. Steve states that the Cyclone never had a hood stripe, but notice the word hood is spelled hpod. He believes the line guys got confused and left it off. Steve has talked to the original owner, and he said it was never on the car.
In the 3rd document, Steve has provided a copy of a Build Sheet for a Cyclone that was for sale a few years ago. The seller sent him the Build Sheet and Marti Report. The gentleman selling it stated that it was 1 of 14 built for the race. The image is very poor but hope you can make out the important information.
Here is some more information that was sent to us by a reader.
I received a wonderful Christmas Present from one of our regular visitors and contributors to this site. John Drilling provided us with a newspaper advertisement for the GT 500 dated Friday, April 5, 1968. The newspaper is the Herald Journal of Spartenburg, SC.
The good news is that it describes the Montego Cyclone 500 in some detail. It includes a 390 GT engine, performance handling package, blacked out grill, dual body tape stripes, GT Turbine Wheels Covers, CYCLONE 500 IDENTIFICATION, 390 GT Engine Plaque and BUCKET SEAT interior in black or parchment trim with CORAL EXTERIOR PAINT, CHECKERED FLAG VICTORY PLAQUE. What is never mentioned in the ad is the transmission.
Now for the bad news; it still leaves a slight bit of confusion. As we currently understand it all of the GT 500 cars were built around the first of May 1968 and most if not all were in the Coral paint scheme. So, if this is correct was the Bayless Mercury dealer advertising a car that was yet to be built and delivered or was it one of the Cyclone 500 cars from the Atlanta Race?
Unfortunately, this advertisement does not specifically mention GT 500. This may have been due to the previous run of Atlanta cars being labeled as Cyclone 500s. Most if not all of these were white with a rumored Coral car or two. There is also no mention of the 428 CJ option in the ad above. However, since it is dated prior to the build date of most is not all GT 500s I bet the information provided by the factory to the dealers was not very specific or accurate on the yet to be manufactured sixty GT 500 cars. We have seen this with pre-production Ford Talladegas and other cars where the lead information is not the same as what actually was built in some details.
I have currently of the opinion that this ad is for the yet to be built GT 500 since it mentions the two interior colors and Coral exterior color.
What do you guys think?
Here is proof of the VIN over stamping on the 1968 “R” Code Cyclone GT 500.
What you see below are photos of my own personal GT 500; VIN, Data Plate and Inner Fender Stampings. I have purposely not included the entire VIN for obvious reasons. However, this VIN has been provided to the Marti Report folks and verified as a GT 500 428 CJ “R” code.
In summary, on the VIN the “R” is actually an “F” with some form of over stamp to make it an “R”. The Data Plate is a ordinary “R” stamp. On the inner fenders the location where the “R” should be in the sequence is left blank. On one fender some previous owner scratched an “R” into the blank spot.
At the bottom in the circle is an enlargement of the “R” in the VIN to assist you in seeing the over stamp. You can see that the “F” portion is obviously a deeper stamp than the remainder of the “R”.
I would love to see some other owners “stampings” to help the non-believers see the light.
Updated on 6-7-2009
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I have just receied some additional photos from Hans regarding his 1968 Mercury Cyclone GT 500 in White! You can read more about the car below and I have added all the photos Hans has sent. From the lettering on the front fender in one photo you can see that this 390 did some track time. It was part of the Wilson Ford Drag Club!
We are getting closer on info concerning the Orange GT 500s but now these white cars need to be documented; please help us out if you have any additional information.
Hans is also going through some Chemo treatments so say a prayer for him.
Here is another recent photo of a 68 Cyclone GT 500 just discovered in a back yard. It is a 428 CJ!
The black stripes on the hood ARE NOT ORIGIMNAL. Marvin Speaks suggests that the reason some of the GT 500s have white stripes and others have black is that the 390 cars all had white stripes and the 428 CJ cars had black. Makes sense to me but can anyone confirm this with a Marti Report or other documentation? He said he bought a 390 GT 500 in May of 1968 and it had the white stripes.
UPDATED 4/7/2009
Well, now there is even more info and more confusion. Thanks to Hans Melin of CA we have some more info to put into the basket. He once owned a 1968 Wimbledon white Cyclone GT 500. He was the second owner and purchased it in the early 70s in original condition. It had a 390 and all the appropriate flag and 500 badges. Since he no longer owns the car or has the VIN and Marti Reports were not available we can not document it but we do have vintage photos which indeed show what looks like the proper emblems. This car was sold new in Santa Ana, CA a long distance from the Atlanta Region that was believed responsible for these cars. However, it is possible that it was delivered to CA. However, this does tend to support the idea of multiple special promotional cars out of 1968. If you have another let us know, we are trying to put a puzzle together.
As usual, I am wrong again; there are more questions about the entire Cyclone GT 500 issue. Thanks to John Drilling from Greendale Wisconsin some additional information is know but more questions are now unanswered.
John provided these two images.
As you can clearly see, this NASCAR program is from the 1968 Carolina 500 held on June 16, 1968. Inside this program is the attached ad for the Cyclone GT 500. You can clearly read the text on this ad. Prior to this we believed that the GT 500 was built for the Darlington Race in September. This ad suggests that they were built for the Carolina 500 held in Rockingham North Carolina. This makes me believe that the cars were a promotion for the Carolina 500 and not the Southern 500 in Darlington.
This would actually make more sense. The cars were all built in mid May and, as far as I have seen, all sold in or around the North and South Carolina area.
This makes me believe that the cars were a promotion for the Carolina 500 and not the Southern 500 in Darlington.
As further evidence, John also provided the following two additional items. The first is a letter from Ford to “All Mercury Dealers” and describes a Promotion held in conjunction with the Atlanta 500 held on March 31, 1968. (Remember the Cyclone GT 500s were not built until May of that year). It was part of a “Drive-Away Program where the new owners took delivery of their new Mercury Cyclones at the Atlanta 500 and got a lap around the track (see second image below).
You will note that most of these cars appear to be white with a few painted vermilion. You will also note that there were 160 cars built but they are not called GT 500s! They are called Montego or Cyclone 500s. This helps clear up some of the confusion from folks who claim to have white GT 500s and those with the 302 engine.
Now the questions get even more interesting:
- Does anyone have information on the Carolina 500 and a possible “Drive-Away” promotion at that race?
- How about anyone who has information on the Atlanta 500 program and those 160 cars?
- Anyone have an Atlanta 500 promotion car?
- Were there any other similar promotions at other race tracks that anyone has evidence of?
We may be on the track of a entirely lost or at least forgotten group of special interest cars!
You guys (and gals) are the best. You have given me more and better information than I have been able to get on any forum! Fellow car enthusiasts keep emailing and calling. With every phone call and every new email we learn a little bit more about these rare cars from 1968. Muscle Cars are a lot of fun to play with but the detective work it takes to learn about them is also a great deal of fun. Keep looking and letting me know what you find out.
As of this date I think we may have all the missing pieces. With the help of research conducted by Marti Auto Works here is the rest of the story….
- The cars were built for the 1968 Darlington Southern 500 held on Labor Day.
- As stated before there were only 60 Mercury Cyclone GT 500 cars ever built; all in 1968.
- They were ALL painted Vermilion. There were reports of white cars but not according to Marti.
- 45 cars out of the 60 built were produced with the 428 CJ engine.
- All 45 428 CJ cars were Ram Air equipped.
- All 45 428 CJ cars had automatic transmissions (C6).
- These cars did NOT have their own Body Code designation. Although ours only shows a “63” others all seem to have the regular “63H” code.
- No proof but all cars seem to have black bucket seats with console.
- No info on tire and wheel combination. It is assumed that any option was available that could be had on a regular GT.
- There was a swept back checkered flag emblem on a small pole located on the rear quarter panels.
- The build date on the my car is May 4, 1968. The car was sold on June 10th; most of the cars seem to be built in this window. Most likely all at the same time.
- It has been stated that the checkered flag cam from a 64 Comet – part number C3MB16188A C3MB16189A. The part number for the 500 emblem is C8AB – 82290098 – A and it looks like a 68 Galaxy.
NOTE:
The following information has not been edited since it was posted. It provides a historical and chronological record of the information (true or false) as we received it.
As of 2/3/09 we now know a little more. I am still waiting on some research that the Marti Report folks are doing for me but I will give you the info I have collected from the most recent 3 car guys who have called or emailed me. One even came from out of state to talk and look at cars.Guys who have owned GT 500s as well as recorded VINs and data plates have helped put some more pieces of the puzzle together. My previous information about all the cars being 428 CJs and all identical is most certainly not true. It appears that at least a couple of the cars were white and not Vermilion (orange). The Vermilion cars that have been reported all had bucket seats in black but side stripes could be white or black. The upper stripe is not a GT stripe but rather the thinner version. It seems that advertisements for the cars showed wheel covers but many were optioned with the steel wheels, trim rings and center caps.Based on what I have been told as well as the advertisement for the car it is unlikely that any 302 cars were built. However, I have received insistent reports that more than one 302 car has been seen and validated. The official position is that the base engine was a 390 but the Q Code and R Code 428 could also had in the GT 500.
Here is what the text in the advertisement of the Race Program for the Darlington Southern 500 from 1969 has to say. Just above this text is a photo of Cale Yarborough’s Cyclone #21 followed closely by Le Roy Yarbrough’s #26:“Above are two stocks worth holding onto-good bets for the long pull. Like 500 miles flat-out at Daytona and Atlanta where track-modified Montego Cyclones finished 1-2, turning each place into a kind of outdoor showroom! If you’d like a piece of the action in a road version, we recommend our Montego Cyclone GT “500” with a list of goodies as long as your arm. A 390 GT V-8 for openers, 325 horses strong (or, for quicker effects, our 428 Cobra Jet V-8). Dual pipes, Whitewalled wide treads and GT (turbine) wheel covers. A suspension system with one of driving’s biggest handling charges. Blackout grille and taillight panel. Tinted rear window. Twin buckets in a vinyl that “breathes” to help you keep your cool. Deluxe vinyl-wrapped steering wheel. Wood-grained instrument panel and authoritative gauges. Nylon carpeting. Even the body is striped for action. you won’t miss the racing numerals. especially when you hit the road!”
Mercury’s got it…the? Competitive Edge!” MERCURY
Who won the 1969 Southern 500? Cale Yarborough in his Mercury Cyclone!
Previous Information
The following information was as of 1/2/09. Finally, after six months I have some really good info on the GT 500. Thanks to Alan Miller, who owns one of these very rare cars (pictured below) I now have a much better idea of what we have. However, there are still some unanswered questions. I will bring you up to date along with what info I am still looking for.
1. The 1968 Mercury Cyclone GT 500 was built for the 1968 Southern 500 in Darlington. As stated previously, only 60 of these cars were built and they have their own body code on the Data Plate. It was previously believed that all of them were 428 CJ cars but this was not the case.
2. The base engine was a 390 with the 428 CJ as an option.
3. I still believe that all of them were painted Vermilion (Calypso Coral) with white lower and upper stripes (the thin ones). There were additional emblems on the rear quarter panels; a 500 emblem and one checkered flag. (see photos)
4. All interiors were believed to be black with bucket seats and console but could be either 4 speed or automatic. The steering wheel should have a leather wrap and the dash should have the wood grain treatment.
5. An advertisement from the Southern 5oo program provides additional insight into the standard equipment and it can only be assumed that all regular options could be added to the car from there.
6. One very interesting bit of information I am lacking is details about the 1968 use of the 428 CJ in the Cyclones. The reference books I use only list Q, 8, or P as possible engine codes in the VIN. The 428 CJ only became available in Cyclones, Mustangs and Torinos very late in the model run and are referred to in most books as 68 1/2 models. In 1969 the R code in the VIN referred to the 428 CJ Ram Air motor in the Cyclone.
The Marti Report for our GT 500 states that our VIN with an R for the engine code in the VIN is a 428 but makes no reference to the Ram Air. Since our car was missing its engine and hood there is no way to know if it should be a Ram Air car or not. DOES ANYONE KNOW IF THERE WERE ANY 1968 RAM AIR CARS BUILT?
PREVIOUS INFORMATION THAT WAS PROVIDED BEFORE JUNE 2008
I have what is called a 1968 Mercury Cyclone GT 500 with a Marti Report to document what it is. The car is so far gone it is difficult to know what it is suppose to look like. The Marti Report says only 60 GT 500s were built. I have no idea what this gt 500 option included or how the car should look. Is it worth a restoration? Is the GT 500 something cool or just another stripe package?
I do know the car is an original 428 CJ so it does have some value. I have been told it was a special edition built for a NASCAR race in Charlotte and that likely all 60 were identical. It is suppose to be a GT with a GT 500 option, vermilion color, black bucket seats with console, PS, PB and AM radio. I also understand it should have some emblems on it but not sure what they should be. I have heard of two others in existence but can’t find owners or pictures of any.
richard I own a 68 390 s code cyclone gt barn find ps pb ac pwr windows buckets console at chrome dress under hood white red interior sounds like a close match if you need pics let me know lq
Even though it is an R-code, for 1968 it didn’t mean it was a ram air CJ. Only the Mustang, Cougar, and Shelby came with air induction in 1968.
Joe, thank you for your comment. That was my understanding also. However, the information supplied in this article is the result of special research that was completed by the folks at the Marti Report. I am just providing the information that they gave me. In the past their information has been better than that I have gotten from Ford directly. I remain open to any additional “proof” one way or the other on the Ram Air part of the 1968 “R” Code 428.
I completely understand your sentiment, but if Ford never developed a ram air system for the mid-size cars, how would they sell one on a ’68 Cyclone?
Joe, I think you missed the point. Ford/Mercury did have ram air on some of their cars in 1968. It is the same air cleaner style they used on the cars in 1969. The Cyclone GT 500 was built in May, only a couple of months before the 69 cars were in production. The 68 GT 500 428 CJ would use the same 68 Ram Air air cleaner (system) as the other 68s. However, they were not the shaker hood scoops. Look at a 68 Cougar with Ram Air and look at a 69 Cyclone with Ram Air, the air cleaners (ram air systems) they are identical. The Torino used a smaller scoop but the same air cleaner. I do not have definitive proof yet, but my bet is the 68 GT 500 428 CJ had the same ram air system as the optional ram air on the 69 428 CJ on the Cyclone.
I can only sit here with the preponderance of evidence and say that it was not available. Your Marti Report says the same, but then you say further Marti research has shown your car came with air induction? If this is so critical and important, could we see this Marti documentation that you speak of ?
This is what makes the hobby so interesting!
Joe, The Marti report consists of two documents. The first is the regular Deluxe Report that is available from Marti Auto Works for certain years and models of Ford products. Is is the accepted authority by most hobbyists; the second report is also from Marti Auto Works but is a special research document in letter form. This document is prepared based on special research done on the Ford data they have available on a particular model of car. This is research they do for an hourly charge and is only done on very specific questions and is not cheap to have done. I have used this service on several different vehicles and have always found it to be very reliable. As with all Marti documents they are licensed by Ford and all material is copyrighted. The information is only available from them and they prohibit the publication of the information without permission. Let me just say that the original Deluxe Report states our 1968 GT 500 is a 428CJ and does not say it is or is not a Ram Air car. However, the special research document states that ALL 1968 428 Cobra Jet engines were produced with air cleaners with Ram Air. Because of copyright laws I will not show copies of Marti Reports or Special Research Letters. However, I am more than happy to show the information to anyone at a show or our offices but will not publish any such information. I also will not photo copy the information so don’t ask.
Hi, thanks for your reply.
The Deluxe Marti you mention doesn’t list the air induction – is this correct? So its absence would imply that it didn’t come with it, right?
But the “research document” mentions something about the air induction? Is this something that would be factory or part of a regional promotion that may have been done by another party in cooperation with Ford?
Lastly, when you say “ALL 1968 CJ engines were produced with air cleaners with ram air,” I think you mean these GT500 cars and not CJ Cyclones and/or Torinos, right?
Thanks again!
Joe, the vin on the 68 GT 500 contains an R in the engine designation location. You are correct on the “All 428 CJ engines” statement; it applies to the GT 500 cars. These were a regional promotion for the Darlington NASCAR race on Labor Day in 1968. I have no idea if the hole was punched in the hood for the Ram Air by Ford or another party.
Phil,
Thank you for your comments and input. You are corrent on the typo regarding 1969; it in fact should be 1968. I have corrected the text. This is the only 68 I have and the rest are 69s and it is hard for me to type 1968!
If you look at data books they do not list an “R” code in 68 but this one has it. The car also lists a “63” without a letter on the Data Plate; this also does not show up in data books. I have no idea why that is or what it is supose to mean. If it is a typo and the letter was just left off, they were consistant and it does not show up any where and Marti recognises it but does not supply any info on it when asked.
Richard and Joe,
Interesting topic. A couple of thought’s. I possess a 68 Torino GT CJ built 7/19/68, very near the end of the model run. There were never any 68 Torino CJ’s that left the factory with Ram-Air. Mustang’s all had it but then again, your could get a 4spd in a Mustang but not a Torino (unless you were Bunkie Knudsen who had 1 built for himself). Ford did some strange things, particularly in the strike shortened 68 model year. All statistics are courtesey of Marti Auto Works.
About 2 years ago, there was a Green/Gold striped 68 Torino CJ located in Wisconsin on ebay that claimed “factory” Ram Air. Upon my contacting the seller(s) directly, it was found that their Dad had the dealer install it in Sept. of 1968 using 69 components. That one claim aside, I have never seen a documented example.
I would tend to go along with the Cyclone claim but line 2 of 12 is confusing. It states they were all built in 69. If that’s a typo, then based on Marti’s resources, I’d believe it.
Beginning in 69 the question was moot as the with/without issue was resolved by the engine V.I.N. letter.
As a side note, Kevin Marti’s copyright allowances are included at the bottom of all his correspondence and documents. If requested, I’d be happy to forward all my doc’s including the build sheet.
Phil Jamieson
I have a copy of a Ford World employee newsletter from 1968 that explains about the Cyclone GT 500 promotion at the Atlanta race. It has a picture on the cover of all the cars circling the track. From what I’ve been told, the Cyclone GT 500 was a “drive-away” promotion hosted at several NASCAR tracks. Buyers got tickets for the race and a special Mercury jacket. The new owners also got to circle the track before the race.
I own a 1968 428CJ GT 500. It was sold in Rockingham NC, I believe in connection with the Carolina 500. My Marti report also says 60 were built, but the Ford World article says 160 were built for the Atlanta race. Someone told me the promotion was also held at Daytona and Darlington. FYI – my car is an R-code, but it didn’t have ram air when I bought it about 20 years ago and the Marti report doesn’t mention it.
MercuryJD428, Thank you for your input. Your information helps pull together some of the rumors I have also heard about the track promotions. As I have heard it, there was an on-track event using a special Cyclone and then it was done with the GT 500 at the Southern 500 at Darlington. I have seen the program with the ad for the GT 500 in the Race Program. I have also been told that this activity is what generated the Dan Gurney and Cale Yarborough Specials in 1969.
As for the 160 vs 60 cars built; that would not be unusual. Ford (and others) often claimed build numbers larger than actually were produced. One story I heard was they wanted to build more than 60 but there was a shortage of 428 CJ motors and other assembly line issues so not all of the GT 500 cars were ever built.
The fact that your 428 CJ does not have Ram Air is very interesting. Does it have a hood scoop or hole of any kind in the hood? Did it have a factory air cleaner (non-Ram Air) when you got it? To the best of your knowledge was the car all original when you got it? Matching numbers etc.?
Anyone else out there have even more info?
My car has no hood scoop, no hole. It has a standard factory air cleaner.
The person from whom I bought the car claimed it was the original engine. The VIN number
is NOT stamped on the back of the block, however the date codes on the engine parts are
all correct for a 1968 Cobra Jet.
Another unusual aspect of the car is the VIN plate on the dashboard. The engine code R
was originally stamped as an F, but was engraved to change it into an R. I have been told that all 68 Merc Cobra Jets came from the factory that way. The driver side door data plate, Marti report and the original title all have the R engine code in the VIN number.
Strange, but true.
Mercury, thank you for the info. I had totally forgot about the VIN. The “R” on the dash plate for our car also is hand made from a stamped “F”. Very strange but true.
Phil, I have no way of knowing for sure but I would bet that all 428 68s had the engraved “R” in the VIN. How about it, anyone out there have a 68 Cyclone with an R Code 428 with a stamped “R” in the VIN and not an altered “F”?
Guys,
Quick question, do you know if all 68 Cyclones had the engraved “R”, or just the 500’s?
i believe in 1968 no cyclones bye mercury had 428 or 429 options 302 390 427 no 427 recorded that i know i have a 1968 mercury cyclone gt with a390 so i did a lot of homework on this issue and never saw one in books they tell me none were ordered with 427 thanks Darrin
Darrin, Thank you for your comment but I can assure you Mercury and Ford both put 428 CJ engines in their 68s. However, this was a mid to late year option and was not available earlier in the year much like on the more well know 68 1/2 Mustang and Shelby 428s. The 428 engine will also show up in Code Books as a Q engine in 68 the CJ is an R Code but does not show up in Code Books. The Marti Report confirms the 428 CJ in a 1968 Cyclone as does Ford.
Glad to see the story is continuing to unfold!
I’m confused (again!) by two things:
1) Why does the car have to be a promotional item for one race? Why couldn’t it be promoted for more than one race? After all, there’s more than one race with “500” in it, right?
2) I don’t know why you’re suggesting a CJ would have a Q code when we know they all were Rs in 1968 . . . right? Don’t believe all code books you read.
Joe, sorry for the confusion. In response to your question #1: As I understand it at this time, the cars were built to promote one race. The cars were sold to owners and then DELIVERED AT THAT TRACK WITH AN ON-TRACK LAP of all the cars at one time. It is my impression they may have done this more than once but built different batches of cars for each different track promotion.
In response to question #2: I did not intend to state that a 428 CJ had a “Q” Code. That is not the case but they did use the “Q” Code on a 428 engine in 1968, it just was not a CJ. The 428 CJ was an “R” Code. The question remains as to whether the GT 500 “R” cars were Ram Air as stated by Marti Report or whether, as most photos show they were standard non-Ram-Air. The jury is still out on that one.
There were also a few 1968 Cougar 428 GT 500s sold. If you can find one you’re a lucky man. I’m not aware of one existing example.
Wow, makes sense but never heard that before. Can you provide a little info on what to look for on these cars? Color, options etc.
According to what I was told, there were possibly two built. Both Orange with black trim. They were supposed to have the same checkered flag emblems the Cyclones had.
Any idea of where or why they were built? Was it part of the other promotions or some other promotion? Any ideas on how these could be documented? Someone who might have owned one or some literature (magazine article) or a Marti Report or?
Sorry, but that’s all I know about it. So are you going to restore your car or what?
There were also 1968 Cougars made with the 427 right into July of 68 along with the 428CJ’s. Typical FoMoCo, lets do whatever we want LOL.
Phil J
The car is still in the “maybe” classification. It is very far gone and I have lots of good projects. For now it will just sit in the storage building until I decide.
427s and 428s were not built concurrently. The CJ superseded the 427.
Joe,
They were built concurrently and offered in the Cougar GT-E through June of 68. There were roughly 10 times the amount of W code 427’s built then the R code 428 CJ’s. The W code’s only came with a C6 automatic. The R code in the Cougar line became available in May approximately one month after the Mustang/Fairlane line.
Phil J
Phil, you are absolutely right! I glanced at the GT-E registry and noticed there were some Ws produced after Rs. I had no clue!
What I’d give to find a little old gal with one of those tucked away in a garage that “had” to get rid of it! LOL
Phil J
Hey Phil, men have been know to marry for less! LOL
It’s always amazed me how the priority list can get re-arranged for us when it comes to our hobbies! LOL
Phil J
If the GT Package was part of the deal, along with its subsiquent options, the 302/4V was an option on the GT. This is also the only year for a 4BC on the 302/V8, except for the Boss.
So maybe a 302/4V could be optioned on one???
Nice Needle-In-A-Haystack story!!
I thought the 390 was standard with the GT, and the 302 was standard with the base Cyclone?
302 was standard for the GT but a few 289’s were also installed due to the strike and availability. The 302 4V was not offered in the Fairlane line, just the Mustang. Hope this helps.
Phil J
Want some more trivia/confusion? The 390 was the standard engine in the GT 500 package.
FYI, the “Elite” Marti for my 68.5 Torino claims “428 Cobra Jet Ram Air” which we all know is not true. I respect Kevin Marti and what he provides but attention to detail and information transfer is sometimes overlooked. On this particular car, it took three attempts to have a copy of the original invoice with the correct cost for the CJ option. I am basing this opinion on the purchase of better then a dozen Elite reports on original vehicles over the last several years and the fact we are all human.
Phil J
Phil, I agree. I am coming to the conclusion based on everything I have read on the site to date and the photos provided that the 68 GT 500 is NOT a Ram Air car. Even though Kevin Marti states otherwise the over whelming evidence is that they may have been “R” codes in 68 but not Ram Air.
Ok so is it possible to have a 68 GT 500 with a 302 orange with red interior. This is the original paint, original motor and interior and on the rear quarter I have the holes for where the 500 and flag would go. I did not know what the emblems were until I found this web site.
Jeff, I can’t really answer that question. The advertising at the time stated that the base engine was the 390. I don’t think the 302 would be likely or possible. However, such questions can not really be answered without a build sheet or a Marti report. That is the best way to find out. It is certainly possible Mercury built one for some reason or it might be some other promo model that was built. Send me some pictures and certainly let me know what you find out with the Marti Report. We are all still putting this puzzle together regarding these cars.
Check out this link. I think you’ll find something interesting there:
http://www.frontiernet.net/~cougardb/dealers.htm
Joe, this is terrific! Thanks for the link. This pushes me over the edge. I am going to devote a few pages of this site to the documentation of Regional Promotions for all the different auto makers and see what we can find. This should be real interesting and might dig up some cars none of us have ever heard of before.
Well I do not have to worry at all. I have a couple 428 Cj Cyclones, But my date codes differ from these cars. 01/D/68 first day production of the 428 CJ car, April Fools Day. Its white, non ram air, fifth digit R-Code. And and HOR car (home office reserve) car 16/E/68. Also fifth digit R-Code, Green with Gold Met Stripes, manuel Steering, manuel brakes, Gt package, truck release, rear defroster, 428 CJ, with a Y- Code rear end= 4:11 Locker Factory. Not a open factory option in 1968 nor dealer installed. So nothing will suprise me any more. I have three R-code cars all 1968 and NONE OF THEM have ram air. Only in 1969. Rod
Rod, great collection! How about a few photos? I think we have finally proved Marti Auto Works is wrong on their satement that the “R” code stood for Ram Air in 68.
Rod, do you have Marti production figures for these cars? I would love to hear of them.
rfleener, without seeing your docs, I can only suggest that you’ve read too much into it (unlikely, as you seem on the ball) or – more likely – Marti didn’t proofread well enough and used ’69 info for his description.
Joe, I fall off the ball once in awhile but the info on the 68 “R” code came as the result of some special (read costly) extra research I hired the folks at Marti to do for me on some cars.
My point was that it could say one thing, but you’re reading it wrong. It’s happened, so I’m just trying to eliminate that situation. Like I said, it’s probably likely that it is a simple error from the Marti side.
Joe, I quote from the Marti Research Letter: “All 1968 428 Cobra Jet engines were produced with air cleaners with Ram Air.” Am I miss reading something? At this point, I am sure they made a mistake in their research.